<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Seasoning and FHA&#8217;s Time Restrictions on Resales &#8211; a Legal Analysis</title> <atom:link href="http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/</link> <description>Thoughts, Musings, Analysis on Law &#38; Real Estate</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:13:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: uberVU - social comments</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link> <dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-42</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Social comments and analytics for this post...&lt;/strong&gt;This post was mentioned on Twitter by kasesq94: What is Title Seasoning? Legal Analysis of FHA Underwriting Requirement http://www.nyrelawyers.com/qsx #mortgage #realestate...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Social comments &#97;&#110;&#100; analytics &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; post&#8230;</strong></p><p>&#84;&#104;&#105;&#115; post &#119;&#97;&#115; mentioned &#111;&#110; Twitter &#98;&#121; kasesq94: &#87;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#105;&#115; Title Seasoning? Legal Analysis &#111;&#102; FHA Underwriting Requirement <a href="http://www.nyrelawyers.com/qsx">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/qsx</a> #mortgage #realestate&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Latosha Hunt</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link> <dc:creator>Latosha Hunt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:42:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-25</guid> <description>Kathleen, Just needed a t little clarity. If an investor purchases an REO and renovates it, put purchases it in the name of a land trust, does he still have to wait 90days for the FHA rule? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen,<br /> &#74;&#117;&#115;&#116; needed a t small clarity. &#73;&#102; &#97;&#110; investor &#98;&#117;&#121;&#115; &#97;&#110; REO &#97;&#110;&#100; renovates &#105;&#116;, &#112;&#108;&#97;&#99;&#101; &#98;&#117;&#121;&#115; &#105;&#116; &#105;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; name &#111;&#102; a land trust, &#100;&#111;&#101;&#115; &#104;&#101; still &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#116;&#111; wait 90days &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; FHA rule?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kathleen Scanlon</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link> <dc:creator>Kathleen Scanlon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:10:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-24</guid> <description>Kevin, Your real estate agent is DEAD WRONG! Look at the language of the HUD Mortgagee Letter. This is the misinformation passed on by real estate industry members who try to play lawyer.  Don&#039;t believe the hype! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,<br /> &#89;&#111;&#117;&#114; real estate agent &#105;&#115; DEAD INCORRECT! Look &#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; language &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; HUD Mortgagee Letter.<br /> &#84;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#105;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101; misinformation passed &#111;&#110; &#98;&#121; real estate industry members &#119;&#104;&#111; try &#116;&#111; play lawyer.  Don&#8217;t believe &#116;&#104;&#101; hype!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-23</guid> <description>Kathleen, Thanks!!! That&#039;s what I thought, but my real estate agent said the ninety days starts when the deed is recorded. I have a general contractors licence and try to do my best work. I not only improve the house and have it move in ready (which some people are looking for) but influence neighbors to do work in and around there places. I just don&#039;t think the ninety day seasoning is fair or good for the economy. There are bad apples in every service type of industry. We shouldn&#039;t all be punished for what a few unethical people do. Thanks again for your help, Kevin </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen,<br /> Thanks!!! &#84;&#104;&#97;&#116;&#8217;s &#119;&#104;&#97;&#116; I &#116;&#104;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116;, &#98;&#117;&#116; &#109;&#121; real estate agent &#115;&#97;&#105;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#101; ninety days &#115;&#116;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#115; &#119;&#104;&#101;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; deed &#105;&#115; recorded. I &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; a general contractors licence &#97;&#110;&#100; try &#116;&#111; &#100;&#111; &#109;&#121; best work. I &#110;&#111;&#116; &#111;&#110;&#108;&#121; improve &#116;&#104;&#101; house &#97;&#110;&#100; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#105;&#116; &#103;&#111; &#105;&#110; ready (&#119;&#104;&#105;&#99;&#104; &#115;&#111;&#109;&#101; people &#97;&#114;&#101; looking &#102;&#111;&#114;) &#98;&#117;&#116; influence neighbors &#116;&#111; &#100;&#111; work &#105;&#110; &#97;&#110;&#100; around &#116;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; places. I &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; don&#8217;t &#114;&#101;&#99;&#107;&#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; ninety day seasoning &#105;&#115; &#104;&#111;&#110;&#101;&#115;&#116; &#111;&#114; &#101;&#120;&#99;&#101;&#108;&#108;&#101;&#110;&#116; &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; economy. &#84;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; &#97;&#114;&#101; &#116;&#101;&#114;&#114;&#105;&#98;&#108;&#101; apples &#105;&#110; &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; service type &#111;&#102; industry. &#87;&#101; shouldn&#8217;t &#97;&#108;&#108; &#98;&#101; punished &#102;&#111;&#114; &#119;&#104;&#97;&#116; a few unethical people &#100;&#111;.<br /> Thanks again &#102;&#111;&#114; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; &#104;&#101;&#108;&#112;,<br /> Kevin</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kathleen Scanlon</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link> <dc:creator>Kathleen Scanlon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-22</guid> <description>Kevin, in response to your question, since recording the document in the County Clerk&#039;s office merely provides record notice of the transfer and a Deed is viable the moment it is executed and delivered to purchaser, the &quot;Date of Acquisition&quot; is the date of the actual purchase - the date on the Deed and/or HUD-1 Settlement Statement. Hope that helps! Kathleen A. Scanlon, Esq. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, &#105;&#110; response &#116;&#111; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; &#113;&#117;&#101;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#111;&#110;, &#115;&#105;&#110;&#99;&#101; recording &#116;&#104;&#101; document &#105;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; County Clerk&#8217;s office merely provides record notice &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; transfer &#97;&#110;&#100; a Deed &#105;&#115; viable &#116;&#104;&#101; moment &#105;&#116; &#105;&#115; executed &#97;&#110;&#100; delivered &#116;&#111; purchaser, &#116;&#104;&#101; &#8220;Date &#111;&#102; Acquisition&#8221; &#105;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101; date &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; actual &#98;&#117;&#121; &#8211; &#116;&#104;&#101; date &#111;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; Deed &#97;&#110;&#100;/&#111;&#114; HUD-1 Settlement Statement.<br /> Hope &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; helps!<br /> Kathleen A. Scanlon, Esq.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link> <dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:34:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-21</guid> <description>I need a defintion of what is a, &quot;sellers date of acquisition&quot; when the property is bought at foreclosure auction. Is the, &quot;sellers date of acquisition&quot; the day the property is bought at auction?  Or is, &quot;sellers date of acquisition&quot; when the deed is recorded by the county? Thanks </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a defintion &#111;&#102; &#119;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#105;&#115; a, &#8220;sellers date &#111;&#102; acquisition&#8221; &#119;&#104;&#101;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; property &#105;&#115; &#98;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#97;&#116; foreclosure auction. &#73;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101;, &#8220;sellers date &#111;&#102; acquisition&#8221; &#116;&#104;&#101; day &#116;&#104;&#101; property &#105;&#115; &#98;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#97;&#116; auction?  &#79;&#114; &#105;&#115;, &#8220;sellers date &#111;&#102; acquisition&#8221; &#119;&#104;&#101;&#110; &#116;&#104;&#101; deed &#105;&#115; recorded &#98;&#121; &#116;&#104;&#101; county?<br /> Thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill McKee</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link> <dc:creator>Bill McKee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-20</guid> <description>The problem I&#039;ve run into lately, in ORegon, is that the title company won&#039;t insure seller&#039;s title until it is taken out of the land trust (unless the trust is a statutory &quot;Business Trust&quot; .. and that is a whole nuther issue...).  So even though seasoning may not be an issue, the title companies in Oregon are of the opinion that they will not take the &quot;risk&quot; of insuring property that was transferred to a trustee under a land trust (especially if that transfer was done just months or less before the subject sale). I&quot;ve talked with the legal dept of many of the major title companies and they all give me the same answers.  Bill Gatten talked with them, too.  No luck. They all drink the same kool-aid! Anyway, if you ever come across a title company willing to insure title for a transaction in Oregon as you describe above, let me know! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#84;&#104;&#101; problem I&#8217;ve &#114;&#117;&#110; &#105;&#110;&#116;&#111; lately, &#105;&#110; ORegon, &#105;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; title company won&#8217;t insure seller&#8217;s title until &#105;&#116; &#105;&#115; taken out &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; land trust (unless &#116;&#104;&#101; trust &#105;&#115; a statutory &#8220;Business Trust&#8221; .. &#97;&#110;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#105;&#115; a whole nuther issue&#8230;).  &#83;&#111; even though seasoning &#109;&#97;&#121; &#110;&#111;&#116; &#98;&#101; &#97;&#110; issue, &#116;&#104;&#101; title companies &#105;&#110; Oregon &#97;&#114;&#101; &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; opinion &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#119;&#105;&#108;&#108; &#110;&#111;&#116; take &#116;&#104;&#101; &#8220;risk&#8221; &#111;&#102; insuring property &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#119;&#97;&#115; transferred &#116;&#111; a trustee under a land trust (especially &#105;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; transfer &#119;&#97;&#115; done &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; months &#111;&#114; less before &#116;&#104;&#101; subject sale). I&#8221;ve talked &#119;&#105;&#116;&#104; &#116;&#104;&#101; legal dept &#111;&#102; many &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; major title companies &#97;&#110;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#97;&#108;&#108; give &#109;&#101; &#116;&#104;&#101; same &#97;&#110;&#115;&#119;&#101;&#114;&#115;.  Bill Gatten talked &#119;&#105;&#116;&#104; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#109;, &#116;&#111;&#111;.  &#78;&#111; luck. &#84;&#104;&#101;&#121; &#97;&#108;&#108; drink &#116;&#104;&#101; same kool-aid!<br /> Anyway, &#105;&#102; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114; come &#97;&#99;&#114;&#111;&#115;&#115; a title company willing &#116;&#111; insure title &#102;&#111;&#114; a transaction &#105;&#110; Oregon &#97;&#115; &#121;&#111;&#117; describe above, &#108;&#101;&#116; &#109;&#101; know!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Safeer</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link> <dc:creator>David Safeer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-19</guid> <description>Kathleen- Thank you for this post.  I just started following you.  I run a mortgage company, property management company, and hold single family homes.  I also sponsor a real estate investment club. Question:  Have you used land trusts to help investors control properties and then sell them to an FHA buyer in under 90 days using the process you describe? I found this so compelling that I referenced it in my blog and linked to you. Thanks again. www.cleardaycap.blogspot.com </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen-<br /> Thank &#121;&#111;&#117; &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; post.  I &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#115;&#116;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#101;&#100; following &#121;&#111;&#117;.  I &#114;&#117;&#110; a mortgage company, property management company, &#97;&#110;&#100; hold single family homes.  I &#97;&#108;&#115;&#111; sponsor a real estate investment club.<br /> &#81;&#117;&#101;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#111;&#110;:  &#72;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#121;&#111;&#117; used land trusts &#116;&#111; &#104;&#101;&#108;&#112; investors control properties &#97;&#110;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#101;&#110; sell &#116;&#104;&#101;&#109; &#116;&#111; &#97;&#110; FHA buyer &#105;&#110; under 90 days using &#116;&#104;&#101; process &#121;&#111;&#117; describe?<br /> I found &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#115;&#111; compelling &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; I referenced &#105;&#116; &#105;&#110; &#109;&#121; blog &#97;&#110;&#100; linked &#116;&#111; &#121;&#111;&#117;.<br /> Thanks again.<br /> <a href="http://www.cleardaycap.blogspot.com">http://www.cleardaycap.blogspot.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jimi</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link> <dc:creator>jimi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-18</guid> <description>Very informative, thanks! jimi </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative, thanks!<br /> jimi</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kathleen Scanlon</title><link>http://www.nyrelawyers.com/2009/04/seasoning-and-fhas-time-restrictions-on-resales-a-legal-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link> <dc:creator>Kathleen Scanlon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:52:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nyrelawyers.com/?p=19#comment-17</guid> <description>Under the above analysis, the date of a no-consideration transfer from a homeowner to an entity, be it a trust, corp, llc etc, where the homeowner owns the entity itself and maintains control and possession of the subject property is not a Date of Acquisition for the purposes of this Seasoning test. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under &#116;&#104;&#101; above analysis, &#116;&#104;&#101; date &#111;&#102; a &#110;&#111;-consideration transfer &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; a homeowner &#116;&#111; &#97;&#110; entity, &#98;&#101; &#105;&#116; a trust, corp, llc etc, &#119;&#104;&#101;&#114;&#101; &#116;&#104;&#101; homeowner owns &#116;&#104;&#101; entity itself &#97;&#110;&#100; maintains control &#97;&#110;&#100; possession &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; subject property &#105;&#115; &#110;&#111;&#116; a Date &#111;&#102; Acquisition &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; purposes &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; Seasoning test.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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